Are you OK???........drop the mouse and step away from the computer....NOW

Dr Lampouski said...
dennis, to be very honest after reading your posts it seems clear to me you are not mentally together. im starting to understand how you use this blog to justify other problems you are having and make them coincide with the ones you make up here. and you never answer questions nor do you complete your thoughts. its sort of a 'ramble' if you will. question is... are you ok?
July 05, 2005 1:14 AM

I thought this was an interesting comment and it got me to thinking...am I OK?

Well, I thought about the puppets in hotcomm that can be used to make the chat room appear bigger then it actually is and I am OK with that, just thought it should be pointed out.

I thought about my oldest daughter finishing college and coming to work with us and I am OK with that....for sure

Then I thought about the text-b-gone idea so the chat room logs look nice and clean and thought that was a cool idea if not a little funny, but I am OK about that also.

Then I thought about the whole Dax-b-gone thing and besides the idea that "someone" should have checked it out before saying it was golden in published articles I had a few chucks about that one, and I am was OK with it.

Of course, then changing the name of his work to someone else, well that was also little funny in a way and we had a good laugh on that one, so I was OK with that too.

Then my son tried to jump his dirt bike across a road out on Webb Mountain and ended up in the tree, of course, he was not wearing his $1200.00 worth of protective gear and now is walking sideways, THAT I was not OK with. But he is not using that as an excuse to not work up on the hill and I am OK with that.

The whole thing with DrBob and his group being kicked out and then starting TH, well I couldn't believe it but it worked out just fine with a free and open chat room and after a few days, I was OK with that.

Then my youngest daughter received her grade for an accounting class she took this summer at college and since she made at least a "B", I had cut a deal that she could go to a concert with two other girls 6 hours away this weekend and I WAS NOT OK WITH that. So there is an off-duty officer going with them for the two days and I am now OK with that.

It rained very hard today, just after noon so the contractor and his crew left for the day at 1:15 and I was not OK with that..until I spend an hour up there and got soaked to the bone....SO I was then OK with them leaving.

This weekend we had a house full of relatives and we went to Patriot Park for fireworks but the corn on the cob stand was not there this year and I was certainly not happy about that, BUT there was a stand that sold apples covered with carmel and I was OK about that.....4 times.

We were able to hire another crew of framers to do the vaulted timber frame ceiling and roof system, they will be on site on Monday and I am OK with that.

So after I took stock of all the things I could think of....I think I am OK, of course people laugh at me because I am different......but I am laughing at you because you are all the same........baaaaah, baaaaaaaah and I am OK with that too.

Nice job in TradersHaven .....TW_WI

As things move forward we are starting to see moderators from other rooms coming into TradersHaven and checking it out. I have to believe that they like what they are also seeing and have started to share their insights in the chat room.

Of course, they can express their views without being busted on, kicked or even banned. Yesterday TW_WI shared his ideas using an open mic and worked his way thru the market and did a great job.

It has to be a relief, in some ways, for someone to be able to actually talk about how you view the market using your tools and skills instead of having in the back of their minds, the idea that they could say something and get kicked out and banned.....

What a great joy it was TW_WI to hear a voice of free speech again....keep it up dude.

Something to think about instead of busting on me....

this is from a post on e-mini_traders.....and it's something to think about....instead of being a sheep, you might want to try and be the Shepard.

Reply-To: e-mini_traders_anon@yahoogroups.com
To:
References:

Some may get a kick out of this, and it seems to address this point!

A trading friend came over here to trade, not learn, just the fun of doing it with someone, like fishing, it's more fun enjoyed with a pal, than alone! He, not me, hates people "cult leaders", not just in trading, but preachers who need followers in any area. He considers all of them Charles Manson's, so he ate a "big Guru" up by sweeping all the trades he called out (I say called out, because he trades very little, but his follower's don't know that) and all the lemmings took...5 straight and then got bored, and went back to the ES with me, but, after listening to the "Guru" explain every reason (but the right one) why and how the call lost.

It would be a "hoot", if innocent people and their families weren't getting crushed, the "Guru" should have been a television Evangelists!

I had a friend call me to come up and trade together, a guy that was on the floor with me. He didn't want to learn anything, he is as well versed as I hope I am and trades way more contracts than I do, it is just fun to sit and trade next to someone in person then in a web room, as we both have Hotcomm and could do it there if we wanted to. Sitting next to each other, you can talk, joke, reminisce, walk around the yard, joke around, discuss theories, go to lunch, have a few drinks, etc., I think you get the picture, i.e., would you rather visit with you sister over the web, or get together in person? In fact, he is sleeping right now, as we look at the Forex starting at 2:30 a.m. Est. for a set up, because between 2:30 and 3:30 is the time you can get a good move, the Brits. come in at 2:00 and join the Japanese, giving the Forex some "push", then it is usually soft until the U.S. comes in around nineish, so we will try to put a trade on and then go to bed, or in his case, back to bed. When we wake up, we are either up X, Even, or have a profit (maybe still in the trade if the target or loss hasn't been hit yet, but usually your flat and ready to start the day. So while he is sleeping, I am catching up as I didn't do much web stuff after he got here. Well on with story why not to trade thinly traded markets. I always have a bunch of rooms up and running and he hates room leaders, so he asked who I had up, I told him, and one guy with a large following was the room moderator for awhile today calling out the possible entries and had just gotten back from a trip so everyone was excited to have him back. My friend, well versed on "legally stealing stops" like we all are from the "floor" days, wanted to mess with his home coming, he doesn't even trade the products this "leaders" room does, because of what he was about to do. He decided to have more fun messing with this group leader, than trade his usual product, the ES or Forex. So we poured our morning diet cola, cigarettes, and Visine and got ready for what He, not me, considered fun! He knew the method and indicators the room used, plus the "GURU" calls out the developing setups and also others post what they see. So he could easily anticipate the trades, so when the leader was calling out the symptoms of the setup, and says get in at the close of this bar, he would check the current volume, not to confirm the trade, but to calculate how many contracts he would have to come in with to make the trade do the opposite what the calls, at least enough to "steal" the stops, which in this rooms case, aren't very large, because the "leader" teaches and says not to. Like, in the Russell, they use 6 point stops, in the YM, 10 to 15, and if certain things, they "scratch" the trade before they lose the total stop, and if it is a failure in their eyes, go the other way if certain things happens, so he can get them coming and going! We knew how many were in the room, and there is another break away room that trades much the same way, so we had their room up also, telling him about how many contracts were going to come in. Assume we feel the members average a 3 lot, as they have been mistakenly been told to scale out at certain points on the first and second contract and let the third one run with their stops brought to B/E, letting him know where the stops are if they dodge the first try to sweep them, he knows about what the volume will be, i.e. X % of the room members, as they don't all really trade, offset by the decrease in the number of existing contracts already in the volume that will be getting out, and others not in these rooms that will be getting in. With low volume, you don't have to be very accurate. He loads in his Dome, the number of contracts he anticipates will do the damage, the opposite way he knows

the "Guru" is going to call, and he knows they are going in at the close of the bar, so he knows they are all in the trade. He doesn't want to get in too early and push the move the opposite way too early or the Guru will call it off, and it will make the leader look like he is making the right calls, and the whole point of doing is to make the leader look wrong, not take the little lemmings money, although unfortunately, that happens too, but he figures, this guy is only calling trades in the a.m., so they can get their money back in the p.m., and the reality is they wouldn't won anyway, and would not have gotten it back in the p.m. either. So when there is X seconds left for the bar to form, he loads his first batch in to stall the move a little, and when the bar closes, he puts in the rest. If the price starts moving the way the way it was hoped to, he knows his calculations on who many contracts he needed to use, so after a few points, he dumps more in and takes them all out. Then he knows that if a call failed on certain set ups, the group is looking to do something else, so he loads the Dome with a, now more informed guess at the number of contracts he needs to use, and nails them again. Well, he made the leaders first four calls be wrong. They all felt like ducks in a shooting gallery, go one way, wrong, go the other, wrong. Fortunately, after he did it a few times, and listened to all the reasons it was happening, all of which were wrong, he was satisfied and went to the products he normally trades where he could make the kind of money he really wants, and the fun has worn off. What's too bad, all these traders could avoid this if they only did a couple thing differently.

---- Original Message -----
From: Ayman Abu-Mostafa
To: e-mini_traders_anon@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:25 AM
Subject: [e-mini_traders_anon] Re: FMOC meeting at 2:30

I've seen happen too many times for it to be a coincidence. When
they gun the stops, they gun just about all of them. It's easy
because most of the stops are obvious, e.g., below support or below
yesterday's low.
--Ayman

So who is trying to front run WHO????

I remember getting a lot of crap about my post with reference to a special setting for the CCI that would allow you to front run the regular setting. But, it seems to me, that they are trying to front run the very people they kicked out.....and of course, getting PM's and emails about it......and we all believe that....YEA OK.

I guess the proof is in the puddin...so to speak.

TH now has a live moderator.....GO TW_WI GO.......

All eyes are on YOU....

As you know we had a private password protected chat room on relay3 called Columbo and also had another one called Hammermill. From April of 2003 until August 24, 2004 certain people were able, not only, to view our transcripts without our knowledge or consent but also other chat rooms in hotcomm. The information that was found in our logs along with other logs enabled those parties to have meeting to discuss any problems and plan for their future and the future of their chat room.

I was in the process of backing away from any chat rooms and doing any additional workshops or presentation when some of you sent me a snap shot of "that" chart from their chat room. So, I decided to press the issue since they were in the process of actively trying to figure it out for themselves. I had already told FibonacciTrader in Feb. that I would be backing out and they needed to find someone else to do their workshops in the future. I even stopped posting things in CB's room and showing ideas for her clients when this all happened.

By pressing the issues in this blog over time, several people who are or were former members of the group have decided to provide and give up information that has helped us figure out what was done, by who and how often. I have to believe for two reasons, first..they now see that the orginial ideas have changed entirely and second out of fear that some one will come knocking on their door any day.

Also since I started TradersParadise, as we all know by now Woodie kicked DrBob out because he opened a private chat room with "his" friends to trade on the side and all hell broke loose within 48 hours. But TradersHaven is just what is needed, a room for the exchange of ideas in an open and free forum without fear of being kicked out or banned, no text-b-gone, no puppets, and so on.

TradersParadise was never meant to be a chat room where you could just sit there and take the same trades as myself and get rich, I know that is what some of you would like, but that is not what I had in mind. It was to be a place to exchange ideas, chat about trading, post charts and tell a few jokes......but it was never just meant to be me calling out trades for you. In order to actually make money, you will need to develop your own style and trading plan....not just follow someone.

The bottom line is simple, I have advised Hotcomm that we will not be renewing any of the chat rooms on Hotcomm this week as the licenses come up for renewal. As far as posting information about trading and how to actually make money at this game. Well, I think this blog has shown, at least to me, that almost everyone is more interested in BSski then trading.

I wish you all the best of luck in the future and as always, when I am trading I will be in CB's room and maybe TH just watching and enjoying the text flying by.

This blog was also setup not to just bust on anyone, but to get a couple of people thinking, and to that end it has. The rest of you might have enjoyed reading it and enjoyed using your four letter word in replying back, but hey, that's life. I am just grateful that a few choice to come forward showed us just how loyal you were in the end after a year....

The funniest thing is I guess, as we now know BobCathy went back to work and she was the top of the moderators game there for a while. But when the truth came out, I felt bad for her because of all the blind faith she put into it. In reading some of the text from a December 12th, 2004 log (you remember on relay3 girls) that was sent to me by an attendee of that meeting, it seems that Kate, Bonnie and Jennann also had some problems and those "auto 10" after the facts trades and it turns out they were just hype. Got to love it at times, just got to love it.

Into the night they came......From a open window to do their deeds

So people have asked in the hundreds of emails I receive each week and also in the comment section of the blog, "WHY" am I doing this and "WHY" did I wait so long before I started. Some believe it was because the cheese blew out his candle and drifted off into the sun set, well that had nothing to do with it at all.

As I posted in the beginning, a couple of my trading buddies emailed me a snapshot of a charting software that was "accidentally" posted in a hotcomm.com chat room. They never immediately this would be of very high interest to me and of course, it was.

So in order that this work not be copied and pretended that it was their original work like had been done in the past....I started the chat room and also this blog.

Why the timing, that is for another post but during the past 4 months, we have been tracking all kinds of activity, as you know we caught Jimsy coming into TradersParadise pretending to be someone else in order to stir up trouble. Not once, but several times, and a blog was done showing the log in and outs to prove to you all this stuff is not just crap.

We have also been following some other people, "the insiders" if you like, the people you don't actually hear from much. True and loyal to end supporters, no matter what is going on.....and I have to believe they will stand in the Koolaid line before it's all over....but that is their problem.

Over the past two weeks, we have found the person that originally hacked into our private password protected chatroom to spy on us and also copy any text, charts and open code.

Now this may not sound like earth shaking news to you, but were you in a chatroom in hotcomm.com other then the Duke? Did you say anything that could have been viewed unfavorable in the eyes of the brown shirts? Were you banned and never could figure out why because in the Duke's room you were a loyal subject? Did you join another chatroom or start another chatroom and found yourself kicked and banned? Ever wonder why someone that talked one day about this and that was sudden gone and you could never figure out what happen?
I can think of a few.......

Then you could be a victim of this practice of logging into a site where the entire room logs were stored and being able to read those logs without the room owner or anyone else that was in the room knowing that someone else was reading what you said in private. They could even log in...read what last post.....log back out.....and log back in ....and read the latest updated log, Almost in real time.

Then a private meeting would take place and they would decide what to do with "YOU" because you could be a problem. They could even decide how to move forward and what to do next based on what they saw in the other private protected chat rooms.

I do have just one question. Why, was everything out in the open (so to speak) until the sidewinder came along and that is proprietary......??????

Also, I know you read this blog a couple times a day, Lord only knows why, but you are a programmer, a long time personal close friend of someone in Canada,and you have been asking PM questions in TH..........I'm just glad you live in the USA....,

You might want to study up on US Title 2511 over the weekend, but I will post a copy of it on Tuesday if you want to wait that long.

So what is trading really....

Someone posted that there should be a new book written, with good solid information for people who really wanted to trade....AND make money. That everything out there is just someone taking something and puffing it up again, re-inventing the wheel so to speak.
But after doing this blog for 4 months, and watching YA'LL, I can see why no one has done that...you could have trading ideas, personal posting and just plain BSski.....and what gets the most hits.....you got it, batman.

The markets are just like a rubic cube, you can make it work out for you of course, but just sitting there twisting in the wind with one indicator and then another following a goat farmer like a flock of lost sheep wouldn't get it solved. There never will be a book written like you described.....WHY, no one would buy it, believe it would work or even follow the instructions.

When you buy something, (assuming you are a man, now) do you:
1. Take out the instructions, place all the parts out on the floor and follow the directions.
2. Just start putting it together because "you" are a very smart person and those instuctions are for idiots.
3. Let your wife put it together, after you get ticked off, and go in the house to watch "Trading for Dollars"

At the workshop in Orlando, we hope to change some of that.....Hope being the key word there.

Mittens was caught yawning today......

Turn off the anonymous posting and won't allow any "four" letter words and it seems the place has gotten a little boring. Even Mitten seems a little sleepy today, but I see Mitten has at least gotten his hair straightened again.......ROTFL......

The anonymouse posts has been turned back on "for now"...but as I have learned from the Master.......the "Text-b-Gone" (copyrighted by the Duke) is always ready....

TO bust or not to bust ...that is the question....

So I did a post called....
SP might be a little range bound unless some news cand drive it somewhere..ALL Board
and it got one comment....

The I did a post called....
MIA....and why?
and it got 60 comments....and new room record, great busting everyone.

GO Figure....

Mitten's had to get some cat litter today......

Mittens made a trip to Walmart this afternoon for some badly needed kitty litter and of course some salmon cat food. She decided to vist the beauty salon and talk about getting worked over......Of course, they didn't charge Mittens this time, because of the "NEW" employee was a little rusty and kept talking under her breath about her husband making her work for a living now.


The local CCI chapter was also seen at Walmart, mostly in the parking lot but they were excited as Bernice stopped in for a few laughs....And what a circus it is. I guess after seeing Mittens running out of the beauty salon, they didn't wait around for their cream rinse.

RED ALERT...and this is not a drill either

SO, I come back from the mountain, hoping for a dull and quiet market and what did I find? Paltalk had kicked me offline AGAIN. When I went to log into the paltalk rooms again......SORRY THIS ROOM AIN'T NO MORE.

Dang skippy, what have you boys been doing why I was playing up on the hill the past few days. I mean the highlight of my day is reading endless text to see what everyone is saying about me.....you know I have an ego and everything...but should I remove the link to the right of this post......to the TeddyCCIClub.com?

Jimsy, nice to see you in the room there buddy....you logged in a 16:26 and back out a 16:31 did that give you enough time to read everything? If not, just copy and paste it Ok.......Hope you can make the workshop, maybe I can teach you a few new tricks.....OK DUDE? From what I understand you could use a little help.....
What are you smokin man....I can't even see the CCI on this chart.....and at the right side (by double clicking on the chart) I can hardly even see the price...but I guess price isn't that important......well at least until the statements come.


So you sell the green dots and buy the red dots but only if the blue dots is within the last 14 bars and the candle sticks is cyan...or is that the other way around.

But for a long time best buddy of the Duke of Wood, this chart has me rolling on the floor. Somewhere out there, I think the FudgeLady has even said that she doesn't use the CCI according to the Duke....or at least the approved authority updated latest greatest version, and please download it from the their website.....so you get counted (hehe) and you can help us......I mean so we can help you....sorry.

I can't believe that Teddy site is down either, now where will everyone go to read my stuff, I mean, that was the greatest work I ever did....blah blah blah.....and now it's all gone up in smoke. Maybe Jismy has a copy for me.....Well do ya MON....?

Word on the street....IS

As you know I am in the process of building a new house, and just don't have time to keep up with all the coming and going.....so slow it down ok....just relax..

DrBob open a private chat room with his trading buddies (password protected) so they could talk about how they use the CCI plus other work to trade.....the small group of friends tell no one about the room but Woodie finds out and kicks his butt out in the cold. This was after DrBob signed everything so the Duke of Wood could come to NJ again with the "2005 Traders Helping Traders World Tour" and take home so dough. Did Woodie care about the money that DrBob had to put up front for Woodies road show......I don't think......and you people don't even understand that......Woodie will only use you, until something else comes along......then you were never there.
Instantly deleted...Totally forgotten

Fights are breaking out everywhere.....it's hard enough to keep up with this in fight at the Duke of Wood with BobCathy first telling me to guit writing this stuff, then we find out in Exite Trader she posted that is not a great trader....a good trader....or even a fair trader.....then she announced she had to go back to Walmart and get a job doing hair......

Then we learn that JeanYus is considering not to be a moderator anymore either......but he is still listed in the schedule.......

Can't find any mention of the CCI site on e-mintraders.com

Can't find any mention of e-minitraders.com on the CCI site.......and they were best buddies not long ago either....sounds normal in the big picture.

Rover is all over DrBob's room promoting his service...but has not been banned from the Duke of Wood .....wonder why????

Earl of AZ is also coming into the chat rooms just long enough to copy the text.....

Gio has gone MIA.....

Jimsy.....the man/women known by a thousand other nicknames also likes to pop in the chat rooms and copy the text.....since they are only there for 30-45 seconds.....and if he uses his other names...like to stir up trouble....

Then we have Teddy who got kicked out of "HIS" chat room after a vote of some kind...I was there that day watching it unfold. Shame on all of ya. Teddy didn't take the time to understand how the room had moved in another direction since he was not there 24/7 and a food fight broke out.

Now we have Anticc opening a new room, and a website...

Teddy closes his website.....

Kiwi work is missing......or maybe Woodie just deleted it also

The CCI website is starting to get short on work from traders and all on commercials....but what do you except? He can't trade either and has to make money from somewhere......pressure from the wife, I guess.

TonyUK and Gio are now in other rooms as well, I believe they would like to learn how to actually trade for a living.

My wife watching the Soaps on the late night Soap channel
Anyone know where this circus is going........?

MIA........and why?

"they" work 24/7 against you, "they" will say and do anything "they" can to defeat you and "they" are watching your every move. I battle "them" every day, the only difference between myself and "THEM" is that I understand that one of us has to win and the other has to have his head handed back to "them".

And as "The Boss" once sang about......."There is no retreat and there is no surrender, but if you do, then you have loss more then just the struggle.

What should Teddy do, my vote is suck it up, stand tall, draw your sword and give "them" more then "they" bargained for. Anything less would be failing....

Not a day goes by it seems ...without something going on.

It seems there isn't a day without something coming up, I personally don't even have enough time to keep up with it all, and want to thank everyone that sends me updates and posting.


Today, was no different then any other day, except it appears that the tide is shifting again. Over the weekend, BobCathy decided to not be a moderator in that room.

There is a lot of things that could be said here, we could take the low road and bust on Cathy for days, like the Big Cheese did with Gio and the fudge comment. We could take the high road, as Cathy herself likes to do. For those of us who have been in the thick of it with the CCI club, doing, sharing, working to help others in any way we can have all had that sinking feeling when we also made this decision.... I am sure.

Like a good longtime friend saying goodbye, wishing it wouldn't be this way....but the reality of life brings us to the point...where we have to decide, where we stand at the fork in the road.

Surely the sweet voice of Cathy will be missed and if JeanYus follows so will he......but the choices have been made. Those people before you working endlessly, writing code, setting up workshops, doing presentations, but in the end........Well, PEACE Sweetheart....can we have a group hug?

It was hot and the AC could handle the heat from these monitors...SO

It was hot out there in AZ in the summer of 2003, personally I think it hot out there all the time, but as the locals always try and tell ya...."It's a dry heat".
And a couple of comments were made about it was hard to see these old monitors anymore, that his eyes were getting bad. But Woodie didn't know what to buy....Sony, Samsung, Dell, Viewsonic and so on, or what size and how many pixels and on and on.

Then one day, he announced that he had received a gift from a very special friend, Dr. Famir had sent him a new flat screen and it was just great....he talked about how it was good on his eyes....the graphics were great...and very little heat.

So there was this group of us, in a private room on relay3 and we all were in the Woodies CCI Club except for two or three of us. So we decided as a jester our friendship towards Woodie, we would all chip in and buy him exactly the same monitor that the good Doctor had. Because he was not doing this for the money, but to just help people...because he know just how hard this was.

Shanti collected the money, and purchased the flat screen since he lived just around the corner and down the road....and soon Woodie had two new monitors from us.

Like I have said, these were the best of times in the CCI Club, traders really were helping other traders, and sharing information about operating systems, patches for software problems, jokes and just hanging out. So as we moved ever closer to the Las Vegas CCI Conference in Dec of 2003, our group had also made plans for Vegas, so we could be together along with all the good people we had met in the chat room. The only reason, that we were held to some kind of different level was that we gave a monitor, money to MAW in the name of Woodies CCI Club, I moderated, and the rest was also helping in different ways.

Little did we know at the time, what was really going on behind the scenes....more on that later...

It was 2003, and everyone enjoyed the chat room.....

Before the Las Vegas CCI Conference at the end of 2003, I was having a great time in the chat room, busting on people, typing up lyrics and moderatoring from time to time. I would even fly out to Scottdale just to have lunch with the local CCI Club, Woodie and a couple of my trading buddies that lived close.


There is David and next to him is Woodie's foot doctor, rmk, Won, Shanti, DesertDude and others were at the table and there were several tables...we had a great time busting on each other. I mean, this is exactly what the club was about, traders helping traders, enjoy their fellowship and sharing stories and jokes. An Extended family if you like.

Not only were there several old time trading buddies there, but traders that I had chatted with in the room and of course the boss came himself. After the luncheon, we asked Woodie if he wanted to join us over at the Cheesecake Factory for dessert. And of course, Woodie said that would be great and off we went.
Strawberry cheesecake for everyone......



During the summer of 2003, CB had a Trade-Along in Chicago, and I could not get there in time for the first day, but did arrive for Dr. Famir BBQ cookout. I met Kate for the first time and r7, what a character he is. Again, just regular folks talking about their everyday lives, kids and grand kids, trips, cracking jokes and so on. You know, we all have "OUR" way of trading, no matter if it is making money or not, and these times together was not about really trading...just enjoy time with each other....

Later in 2003. several of us who are in CB's room decided to come out to Scottsdale have a two day workshop and share ideas about this and that. Again we met for lunch with the CCI Club and again we had cheesecake. That was when Woodie invited us all over to the Country Club for Apple Dumplings the next day. The apple dumplings are ordered first because each one is made fresh and it takes about an hour or so before they are ready to be served.....but WOW it's worth the wait for sure. Anyone have a fork or spoon......help a guy out.



During this vist is when Woodie came over on the first afternoon and joined us for a while. While DesertDude was talking about how he traded and Shawn also talked about her work and everyone else was listening to them, I personally was in a losing trade, at the time, and eas clued to the charts when Woodie came over sat down and we started to talk. That was when he asked me, if I had ever looked at a certain setting for the CCI, which I replied NO....so I set up a new chart with the CCI set to 14/6 and also setup one the way he described it while "he" explained how it worked. This was the trip out there when Won and I drove to Vegas at 120mph across the desert in a Z car......wild time and this is actually Woodie's house in the back ground, for whatever that is worth.


At the time, we were approacheing the Vegas CCI Confernce and Woodie explained how "if" the regular CCI stopped working that this setting would get everyone in before the regular CCI could. In other words, with this settting you could front run the regular CCI by a couple of minutes, Woodie even showed this several times, in the chat room, before Vegas and said that he was going to "give it to us" in Vegas. I trade totally different then other traders do based on the spread, trin, tiki, prem and tick, so front running the regular CCI didn't exactly strike a note with me. I mean, it would be nice to be able to do that...but I also know that a any second in time and I mean any second in time...someone...somewhere in the world can press a button and blow you right out of the water....PERIOD.

In fact, Joey Borsellino was sitting in a hot tub one night, and in one of those moods as he looked at the overnight market. The conversation had alot of 4 letters words in it, but the basic topic was the ASxxxxxx who think they are smart by using stops in the overnight market just above and below a pivot. So, he picked up an order entry device, and said watch this as he hit the botton.......and then proceeded to reverse and ended up clearing out both sides of the market around each pivot. "So much for being a wise guy"......I will always remember that, doesn't matter what you do, what system you trade, or what market....someone can take you out in a heart beat.....no matter how you get in.....before the crowd, with the crowd or after the crowd.

I really didn't think more about front running until April or so in 2004, and will explain more about that later... I need to trade....hehe

So one of my long time trading buddies......did a spoof on me....so guess what...

A long time trading buddy sent me an email that I posted last night.....and what a great spoof it was....SNL would be proud, so guess what....I PASSED IT ON .....

That is what I like the most about this business..... a bunch of regular Joe's trying to help each other, sharing, networking, busting on each other and so on........Got to love it...

Still laughing....and I wrote this last night....this morning and still laughing as I am posting this spoof, you all have a great day trading, since I have to report early to my day job........love ya guys....

Well before anyone works themselves up in a fit here.

Well before anyone works themselves up in a fit here. You have to consider a couple of things.
1. DrBob was a loyal and devoted follower of the Duke of Wood and went "WELL" beyond the call of duty to help others with what DrBob believes is solid way to approach the markets. And what have you ever done?

2. DrBob also setup the first NJTAL from start to finish and had already planned the second NJTAL which means he signed the contract for the hotel and paid the money up front for everything. And what have you ever done?

3. Duke of Wood then decided that DrBob had to go, not that he had to take it into one of the dozen or so other rooms, that no ones uses....BUT YOU'RE OUT OF HERE. What did you do, anything or just sit there....afraid you will be next?

4. DrBob then setup a chat room, where people are allow to talk openly and freely about their trading ideas. Without fear of being kicked and banned for what they say or think. No fear, of posting a chart or asking questions about a different setting or indicators....just traders talking about trading. And what have you ever done?

DrBob has done what 99.9% of the people ....won't....the rest just sit there like sheep, ready to follow, anywhere, anytime or anybody. I have no prolbem with DrBob or TradersHaven, in fact, it is just what people need....a place to come and share ideas, network in a lonely business, tell a joke or two and be part of a community.
Something that others seem to have missed entirely.

Here is the post from Anonymouse about DrBob.........GO GET THEM!!!!!
And post here anytime.....


Anonymous said...
A Statement by Dr Bob Regarding the 50CCI

“I want to take this opportunity to put in writing a statement by myself regarding my use of the 50CCI and the genesis of the trades that evolved from that.

I received a very pointed, unsolicited email from a well known member of Woodies CCI club in which it was said that I was not forthcoming in disclosing my exposure to the 50CCI. It was stated by this person that the 50CCI was taught to me by one or two other individuals in the room and that I should give credit where credit is due. It was also stated that “I made it seem from the beginning that I discovered the 50CCI”. It was also insinuated that I am making a “career move over it”. This is a statement on my background and use of the 50CCI and the trades that I have described using it.

My use of the 50CCI began when I first was exposed to the CCI in the Paltalk rooms very early on. I was in the original Paltalk room when there were 2 rooms being relayed; I was most often in room 2 with Jayscat. I had been using multiple EMAs on my charts before CCI, using a longer period EMA on a lower time frame chart to represent the EMA from the longer timeframe on that smaller timeframe.

At the time, Woodie was using only the 14CCI so I added a 25CCI, 50CCI and 75CCI to mine in addition to the 14CCI as I had no idea how the longer period CCI would equate to the similar method I had been using with EMAs. I just doubled the 14CCI, rounded to 25 and went up in increments of 25 to 50CCI and 75CCI settings. As time went on the need to cut down on information became evident and I dropped the 25 and 75 and ended up with the 14/6 (as Woodie added the turbo later) and the 50CCI. I was never introduced to the 50CCI by another person in the room. I have had it on my charts since day one and have been using it since then also. I was reticent to discuss it in the room, as it was Woodie’s wishes at the time to keep to the basic setup in the room. I showed him what I was doing with the 50CCI at the NJ TAL last year and have shown many others the work on it over the past 3 years. If those people are so inclined they could verify that statement. I have no idea if I was the first to use the 50CCI and have never said that I was. I am not making a “career move”. I am just showing others what I do and if they find value in it, good enough.

The 5014 trade came as a result of a side room we had about 2 years ago with SamS. SamS was trying to develop an auto trade system using WealthLab and had marked every 100x as a potential trade and was accumulating stats. We noticed that the 100x in the direction of the 50CCI was a good trade and he ran the stats on it with favorable results. We were using the 5m ZB chart at the time. We named the trade 5014 and we used that trade in the side room extensively on the ZB and later the EUR. I wrote custom alerts for that trade in Sierra and shared those alerts, almost 2 years ago, with a handful of people who if they feel so inclined could verify that. I can paste a chart of that alert system as I still have it as a saved study in Sierra.

On trading it over a period of 2 years I added the 0 line nuance and thus the name change to 50140.

The 5034 became noticeable to me on the EUR during the same period as above. We traded it on and off in our little side room over the past year, mostly paying attention to the first ZLR nuance. Only recently I have really started focusing attention on it utilizing the spread sheet and stats.

I would like to thank GB007 for introducing me to the 34EMA and for highlighting the importance of accumulating stats on your trades. Joanne also influenced me in this regard. This has been of tremendous benefit and the 34EMA has been a must have tool. I would like to thank the person who wrote the excel sheet that I use and he knows who he is and I have expressed my appreciation to him on numerous occasions. It is his wish to remain anonymous and if he chooses to do otherwise, that will be his decision.

I would like to thank Dharma for her moderating influence and for her excellent insights into the nuances of higher time frame relevance. She is long time friend and trading partner. Woodie’s benefit to others and me goes beyond words. Just trying to give back is all that any of us can do to repay him.

Thank you for reading this dissertation and I apologize for the time spent on it, but I have been advised by good counsel that clearing the air was probably best, as there are probably others besides this one person who had similar feelings on this issue...DrBob”

wIll the real Fudgemaker stand up......

Well speaking of the candy babe, which one of our contestants is the real fudge seller herself?



Contestant Number #1


Contestant Number #2


Contestant Number #3


Contestant Number #4


Contestant Number #5

Which one of our five contestants is really Gio?
Which one is Barbara the hall moderator?
Which one is really the Fudgemaker...who is really Gail Osten from SFO?
Oh yea, and which one is Barbara Star, you know that wrote "that" article?
And we can't leave out "Bernice" a late entry.......but this was really just about being a Barbara....but hey...Bernice...Barbara...Barbara....Bernice


OK panel....stop laughing and give us your final answer...
Your final answer IS?????

Where has the Princess of the Woodies CCI Club been these days?

Where has the Princess of Wood been these days? We used to wait for Monday morning just to hear his sweet voice, but TonyUK seems to have drifted away from the front of the pack. Has the room gotten to wierd for even Tony, I mean if someone can dress up like this.....it would really have to get really wierd now won't it?

Even Barbara seems to be drifting away from the pack......Someone else is in charge of posting that stuff, just can't believe they seem to have problems with doing it in the right chat room, but hey.....

Where have all the "flowers" gone, long time passing?
Where have all the "flowers" gone, long time ago?
Where have all the "flowers" gone?
Some guy banned and kicked them everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will he ever learn?

PEACE BRO......Tennessee just finished GT off with a can of RAID......GO VOLS

Oppps.......that was a MISTAKE.......

Interesting morning already and it's only 8:00am, seems BobCathy using her laptop has a MIRC and three other chat rooms open, didn't mention anything about her trading charts and order entry platform......hummmmmm... what the heck.

But she accidently posted something from the "other" room, and when asked about it her comments was simple.....
06:14:31 {cathy_FL) My bad, I am sorry...they all look alike to me
And in there is the problem, if BobCathy can't see the difference between TradersHaven and that other room, then someone needs a reality check.

Then when told that if this was the other room, that it would have just been reset, she goes on to say.
06:15:01 {cathy_FL} tell me about it
So I guess, she is not totally blind to the fact that they like to adjust the text with the cool feature....Text-b-Gone.

Asked about the moderators, she said.....
06:18:01 {cathy_FL} not sure I understand the question
OK.......I guess she should take her own advise, get up go outside and talk to some real people and listen to Enya more....come on baby.

Things must have gotten to un-comfortable as she had to leave all of a sudden. Why would someone, who is in charge of all kinds of stuff now, even consider coming into other rooms and posting? And what you saw was also interesting, people just pointing it out....no one was kicked, no one was banned.
WAKE UP SWEETHEART!!!!!
THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE

Why did she post that...it was our secret....dang it

Today, BobCathy left the "Mittens", I mean cat out of the bag in a post that everyone seemed to pick up on.....here is the post:

Anonymous said...
09:47:40 {Eman_CA} is this the yiddish room?
09:47:42 {TraderDoug} oy vey.
09:47:43 {Cees-nl} wrong room, eman.
09:47:50 {JoAnne} This is the main room -- not the "yiddish" room. Woodie will create that one next week, along with the "halfway ajar, but not quite open" room.
09:47:56 {RicardoN_OR} Can we speak yiddish in the "halfway ajar, but not quite open" room?
09:47:59 {JoAnne} No, WoodiesCCI stuff only
09:48:02 {TraderDoug} you tell 'em joanne.
09:48:19 {eminifuts} can we all get along????
09:48:29 {cathy_FL} The plane should be picking me up soon. I'm outta here! Shalom!
09:48:42 {TraderDoug} that's yiddish, isn't it?
09:48:59 {JoAnne} Oy gevalt!

5:08 PM

I just can't figure out why she left it out, I mean now everyone will want in on this...and I wanted it all for myself...every cent. And this post came from that room....playing a little rough in there these days.....aren't they?

Paul and Pete are still hopeful you will call.....

BobCathy1, I see you are now promoting a free trail with PFG....and also in charge of the moderator list....in the room, Talk about getting in over your head sweetheart.

I just wish you would call me and take me up on my offer so we both can make more money.....why haven't you call Honey.....WHY???????

Paul, who is Peter Sellers grandson and Pete, who was featured in Flyboy monthly are still hoping out hopes for a flight to hills of Tennessee......

Ok, I'll make a deal with anyone who wants to come to the FibonacciTrader.com workshop in July. I will be given a presentation on the internals, and time frames along with Perry, MarkB and Yuri. On Monday I will be trading live...and that means real money, real trades and not just walking around the room....Saying, "Great trading everyone, is this helping ya"

On Saturday night, I will fly three people to Sarasota on a private jet for dinner at Yoder's. Everyone that wants a chance to go, only has to put their name in the hat and an attendee with pick the name. One attendee will pick out one name and then another attendee will pick out a name until all three seats are taken. WE will then ride in a limo to the executive terminal and fly to Sarasota eat dinner and fly back.........

BobCathy, let me know if you need anything Sugar.......

Potty mouth again.......just can't let it go ...can ya....it's over!!!!

Anonymous said...
Would be nice to see THeaven & TParadise merge. More the merrier.
6:37 PM


Anonymous said...
>>> Would be nice to see THeaven & TParadise merge.

Shit + Shit = double shit
6:57 AM

They sneak in the rooms under different nicknames, they spy in chatroom and make their remarks and leave before they can be responsed to......They spend their day snooping around the internet and when "THEY" see something they don't like, they can't resist posting a negative comment.

An you wonder why people are now leaving?????
Even why some moderators are actually checking out other rooms now, and under their own nicknames....because they also are getting that sinking feeling inside their heart........they just want to share and enjoy the day.

The show is over, it was good for a while.....well it appeared to be good for a while, but not no more......so stay tuned...

Bernice....where are you babe....????????

TradersParadise was quite today as Bernice was at the mall, I guess. Several of the moderators from the another room were in and out the past two days, but they used there regular hotcomm (spelled with two M's) Nicknames and we were glad to see them and welcomed them to the room....as it should be.

After almost two and a half years of using tricks to spy on people and then ban them for doing or saying anything out of line, (according to their vision) in other media and chat rooms, we have shown to the world now, just what kind of people we are dealing with and to what lengths they will go to keep a lid on things.

Last Thursday, was a classic example, as Jimsy, one of the "in" group, one of the people who was there at the very beginning came in and out of TradersParadise under different nicknames to spread trash and crap. Why would he do this, to what end does he or "they" think will come of it?

Maybe that is why some of the moderators or volunteers seem to be coming into other chat rooms now as they are starting to see a different side of what they are currently involved with. As one anonymous said, "More experienced traders will hopefully congregate in THeaven where some cross-pollination if not perhaps financially rewarding could at least provide a more enjoyable daily trading experience." Very well said.

So we will see, but Jimsy.....you are only adding to the problems that are currently out there with these kinds of actions.....simple as that. I know you live in Canada and who do you think will bare the bunt of this.......so give it up...it's over dude.

BobCathy.....Private Jet standing by.....

BobCathy, I have not heard from ya yet....babe. What's up?

I now hear that "you said" on Elite Trader that you had some problems trading before. But who cares what happen before sweetheart, if you only take a few trades and don't over trade and have had 200 trades with 1 loser....Well, I could care less about your past......

A fortune is waiting for you, let's work together, instead of trading just a contract or two, come and show me and we will trade size on 4-5 markets. I have the office staff, programmers and prop traders ready to take your stuff to the next level.

Please, please, please get back to me soon, daring. I can even have a limo pick you all up at the house if you like. After all I did it for your boss......

Jimsy.......what are you doing man.

I mean yesterday you logged into TradersParadise as Jimsy_On.....then asked a question and left. But, why....you go way back...I believe you were there even before Paltalk ....kinda the first knight for the Duke of Wood....right?

Then you logged in as Josh, and expanded on the question and left. ASAP
Then you logged in as Kevin, and expanded again on the question and left...ASAP
Then we were amazed that you actaully logged in as the Hotcom_Admin and pretended to be from hotcomm....at least spell the damn thing right next time......and made a remark that could be taken as a threat and left ASAP.
Then you logged in as Lenny, and expanded more and again left ASAP.
Then you logged in as Jake, and expanded more stuff and left ASAP.
But the last one was the best, you logged in as Bernice, said some things and left ASAP.

First of all, we never talk about "that" room, ...we don't bust on "that" room, no one gives a fly raspberry about "that" room. TradersParadise is for just trading using the internals of the markets....simple as that. So you stood out like a sore thumb........and guys say you don't spy on other rooms.....then why change your name all day and pretend that it's several people asking questions?

At least today, you came in twice using your "real" Nickname but only for a minute, were you just in there to copy the text and leave real quick?
Here is your login from right after lunch......both in the log and the room...so we know it's you.





Then later in the day you logged in again, did you copy the text this time also?





My question is, how LONG have you been doing this before we discovered it...and we have been printing out the logs with the nickname in the room for a while now.....quite a while.......

I also understand that maybe JeanYus could be moving around in some rooms outside the forest.....hmmmmmmmm

Also, I will be back in TradersParadise on Monday morning, hope to see ya then.

Thanks for the repost...Anonymouse

Anonymous said...
Dennis, do yourself and all the rest of us a favor. Come back when you can show receipts and expenses for the TAL's. Also keep reminding Woodie that if he hasn't filed returns yet, he should do so soon. Better late than never - I'm not sure it's criminal to file a late return. You might also want to make sure all your witnesses would testify that you had no part in dealing with TAL funds. Word is that you were pretty tight with Woodie and you'd have us believe that Woodie would have shared the wealth with any of those who helped him out. To the casual observer, what other reason would have brought you to all the Woodie events? I don't think you were there just to help line Woodie's pockets as you'd now have everyone believe all this time later. If so, you really are a good Sport.

10:47 AM

If you think, for one second, that I was really ever part of the CCI Club intra-circle...think again and think hard about this. I NEVER and I mean never got anything for FREE, never had anything paid for, never flew on their dime, never, never, and never.

IF fact, if you check this out, I went to the Denver Trading Group and they charged like $35.00 for the day.....after it was over Ron, asked me if I knew my expenses and when I gave him those expenses.....I told him to send a check to Make-a-Wish instead of sending me a check.

The TAL, I also paid for everyone that I went to.....so relax on that one...

I have never allowed anyone to buy me anything...including drinks at the bar.

Anonymouse...come on..the game is over buddy......

So I post on this blog that I am not going to be yada yada anymore either in public or in TradersParadise until a few issues are taken care of.......

How stupid do you think I am Anonymouse.......when you log into the chat room I can see who you are.....your ISP, email address and the current Nickname.

You logged in as Josh at 1:02:05 and said a few nice things...and left ASAP.
Then you logged back in at 4:38:42 as bernice.

As another one of the brown shirts logged in 1:06:18 as Won, sorry wrong email and ISP for that....now Jimsy why don't you just use your real name and enjoy being in a free and open room.......oh I forgot, you all won't be able to control our thoughts and my act is stale.........

Well BABY, grab a hold of your socks.......because it's time to pay the piper.

News Conference held today........DATELINE.......

Reporters were called this morning before the markets, as Sport announced that he was closing the TradersParadise chat room. The reason given was two fold:

First, the purpose of the chat room was so that traders could come and share their ideas about trading in an open and free venue. After the events, of May 19th, when he kicked and banned several moderators because, I guess there was an issue of going to a private room to talk about trading the 50CCI. The TradersHaven chat room was born, and therefore my goal of having an open and free chat room so people could actually exchange ideas has taken hold and is growing. And there is no reason to have several chat rooms open and distract people who want to find ideas to help them trade.

Second, and on a more personal note, I don't want my ideas that I had the chat room to compete with anyone else. That was never the case and I don't want anybody thinking there is a conflict of interest here, that I am trying to make any certain person or group look bad....In order for me to benefit from having a chat room in some way.